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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:23 pm 
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I see it in biotope type fish with Altums, Flag Cichlids are in the mix along with Geos. Has anyone kept festivums cichlid, and Geos w with there Altums???


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:33 am 
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I know Pete @ villascityofangelfish keeps them. You might try contacting him.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:48 pm 
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I've kept them with my altums, discus and geos. They're really cute fish with lots of personality. The altums and geos can hold their own against them, but when I removed the altums and geos and kept them with discus only, they started to become bullies against the discus


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:07 am 
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I found that they made excellent partners until the Mesonauta bred (and they did this at every opportunity)


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:13 am 
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Thank for the posts.. Did you keep them togeather as juvies or did you wait till they were adults???


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:12 pm 
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Mesonauta insignis is a coinhabitant species to P.altum. In many places I have seen them actually schooling together.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:28 pm 
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tbone007 wrote:
Thank for the posts.. Did you keep them togeather as juvies or did you wait till they were adults???


I bought them as juvies and grew them out to adult size.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:43 am 
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Both. But if you are bringing them in wild, you need to quarantine and deworm-deparasite, before putting them in the tank with altum that have been in tank for a longer time. If you are getting them at the same time, you can dworm and dparasite together. I don´t know how altum F1s might get along with wild mesonauta.
Again, in nature, altum and mesonauta schools are almost always found in the same habitat, either in very close quarters or even mixed with each other.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:34 pm 
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i was actually thinking about adding like 4 to 6 of these to my 560 liter 7 altum tank but i,m not sure how things will be with the bioload then.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:59 pm 
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I believe you will be fine considering you are giving each adult fish about 40+ liters per fish. So supposing you have a good sized canister or sump containing enough cycled biomedia and your pump is of the proper rating (around 2500 lph for 560 lts), you should have no problem.
In a case like this, a good UV and spray bar or venturi equipped outlets (fine bubble diffusion) will help a lot.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:32 am 
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ok i can get a hold of 2 mesonauta insignis ,but i,m wondering if it,s ok to just put 2 of them with my altum maybe two of them is not enough ,or maybe they will feel ok when they can school with the altum a bit.
anyone got some idea?


they also have 8 mesonauta mirificus but those are not found in the orinoco river ,but they sure look similair , it should be as natural as possible in my opinion but maybe it,s hard to notice the difference once they are in the tank


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:04 am 
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If they look similar, they will most likely fit in.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:48 am 
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ok but if i choose the two insignis wille they be ok only the two of them?


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Very likely, they will think they are altum and interreact with the rest as if they were just one more in the tank. If they are a pair, they will chase off the altum from their territory and get to their own business. If conditions are correct for altum, it is very likely that your M. insignis will breed and spawn in the tank.
Please keep me posted if you do go that way.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:17 pm 
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i forgot to mention that i also have ! L200 ,2 L52 and 1 L201 in the tank ,maybe it gets too crowded then?


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