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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:48 pm 
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I believe that there is now an english version of this available
http://www.amazonas-magazin.de/


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:22 pm 
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I had to order the German version to get the article. Still waiting on it to arrive. The English magazine is not the same. Completely different articles/writers. I will ask Simon if it's ok to post it here after I have it translated.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:31 pm 
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I finally got the magazine today. I will send Simon an email and ask if it's ok to post after I have it translated. Wish me luck.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:00 pm 
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"Good Luck" - I Knew I should've picked German instead of French at school :cry:


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:59 am 
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I ordered an original German copy of this issue of Amazonas. They sure make better aquatic magazines in Germany and the Uk than in Holland :roll:

I have yet to read Simon's article. I just finished reading Heiko Bleher article that is also in this issue though.

In general I think his article is a great piece of information but there is one paragraph that I cannot agree with:
Heiko says that pt cf eimekei is a small pterophyllum species. Ok, can be, but: then he says that the red back manacapuru and Santa Isabel red back fish are all synonyms for eimekei. I can't agree with that. First of all there are significant and large differences between manacapuru and Santa Isabel. And certainly the santa Isabel angels are very big fish when fully grown.
I really wonder how Heiko came to these conclusions.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:46 pm 
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I wonder what Heiko is thinking as well Joost. I was able to get permission from Simon to post the article here. I am in the process of having it translated and look forward to being able to post it here for everyone to enjoy.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:34 am 
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To anybody waiting for the translation...Since the English version is supposed to be out in the next couple months I figure why bother. However here's a bit of eye candy in the form of a pdf...


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:30 am 
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Awesome!! Thank you Mike.

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Nice photos, sadly I can only guess few words.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:50 am 
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Hi Everyone,

Simon's article is excellent and as I can understand German perfectly, I can confirm this. I should actually translate it myself and charge Amazonas, USA.....

With regard to Heiko's article, I can only say that I am disappointed. I agree fully with Joost with regard to the differences between P spec Manacapuru and P spec Santa Isabelle, I cannot see the connection. As far as I know there are also no P leopoldii in the Rio Negro as claimed by Heiko, as I understand they only occur near Santarem and in the Rio Essequibo which drains to the north into the Carribean. Then I find it disappointing that there is this attack on the early altum breeders time and time again. Just right now we have a thread showing true altum from the Rio Negro, but Bleher states that these are not true altum. What must we believe? Unless we have another source of information in the form of DNA data this will remain a discussion and something in which people will have an opinion which cannot be verified, but this sort of approach where "I definitely know" does not help us move forward. It would be good if someone could supply accurate and genuine material of the other "species" that Heiko mentions so that accurate comparisons can be made. For me this article does not tell me that there is any more evidence than three species of Pterophyllum, i.e. P altum, P scalare and P leopoldii.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:24 pm 
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So where can i purchase the English version from???


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:50 pm 
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Subscriptions and copies can be purchased here. http://www.amazonasmagazine.com/


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:41 pm 
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19ghost79 wrote:
Subscriptions and copies can be purchased here. http://www.amazonasmagazine.com/


If I subscribe to the paper version, can I get pdf version as well?

Never mind, you get both if you subscribe paper version.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:37 pm 
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Just got my copy.


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You could download the Jan/Feb 2012 Amazonas for free.


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